Wednesday, May 31, 2006

it shall BRUISE THY head

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall BRUISE thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

1Samuel 17:49 And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth.
:50 So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David.
:51 Therefore David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith. And when the Philistines saw their champion was dead, they fled.

Job 15:26 He runneth upon him, even on his neck, upon the thick bosses of his bucklers:

Psalm 7:12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.
:16 His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate.


Psalm 68:21 But God shall WOUND the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such an one as goeth on still in his trespasses.

Psalm 74:13 Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.
:14 Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.

Habakkuk 3:13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou WOUNDEDST the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah.

Zechariah 11:17 Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye (THAT'S A LITERAL WOUND TO A LITERAL EYE OF A LITERAL HEAD) : his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.


Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads AS it were WOUNDED to death; and his deadly WOUND was healed: and all the world wondered after

the beast.

If one believes and compares the very words of the Bible as they stand, scripture with scripture, what emerges is the WOUNDING of the HEAD of SATAN HIMSELF after which it is cut off clean unto the NECK.

Never make exclusively spiritual anything that the Bible does not tell you to interpret as such. It interprets itself.

9 Comments:

Blogger Matthew Celestine said...

I think the Zechariah text is the literal judgment of an individual. I think this is a Messianic figure who fits the second beast (the horned lamb) better than the first beast which was wounded.

It was one of seven heads on the first beast that was wounded. That does not fit the smiting of an individual's head very easily.

I think we need to use the beasts of Daniel in interpreting the beast of Rev 13. It is a kingdom, as well as an individual, so I think the wound is to the kingdom rather than to a man.

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

8:59 AM  
Blogger Redeemed said...

This makes for an interesting study, but just by Gen. 3:15, God tells the serpent (the devil) that He will bruise his head.

4:52 PM  
Blogger Revelation 2:17 said...

Redeemed, exactly.

between "It was one of seven heads on the first beast that was wounded. That does not fit the smiting of an individual's head very easily."

and what the verses say takes place, I'll take the verses.

The antichrist is the beast but he is also Daniel's little horn, is he not? What do you make of that?

I don't disagree that it has an application to the empire, as I've said in the first post.

It is also clear from the reaction of the people in Revelation 13 that it is a man.

"and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"

What do you think fits better here, that they're wondering after a man or a bygone empire? How are they connecting the dragon and the empire so intimately? notice "who is able to make war with HIM" not "it".

I understand the point you raise, and I've wondered about it, but there are more numerous and weighty misfits the other way around.

Since you believe rightly that it is a literal judgment, are you saying then that the horned lamb has his eye and arm dim and dried? so that you have two wounds administered, one to the empire, one to the horned lamb, Zechariah prophesying the latter? Is it the same prophecy fulfilled once symbolically and once literally? Or two seperate prophecies? What about all the verses in the post, only Zechariah applies to the horned lamb? And if yes, how is scripture with scripture?

Lastly,
"I think we need to use the beasts of Daniel in interpreting the beast of Rev 13. It is a kingdom, AS WELL AS AN INDIVIDUAL..."

Allright, so why not say the same for Revelation 13:3?

1:00 AM  
Blogger Matthew Celestine said...

Firstly, the Antichrist is not the Beast. He is the false prophet.

The false shepherd of Zechariah fits the Antichrist/ second beast/ False Prophet much better than the Beast (with the deadly wound).

If I am correct in applying the shepherd to the second beast, the wound his wound has nothing to do with the wound suffered by the Beast.

The Little Horn is probably the head of the Roman Empire, the individual Beast, not the Antichrist.

"and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"

Worshipping the Beast involves the worship of the Kingdom.

The Antichrist worships the 'god of forces' (not the individual head of the Roman Empire). He worships power itelf. I would therefore suggest that the worship of the Beast and the Beast image is the worship of a personfication (probably female) of the Ten Kingdom Empire.

"Since you believe rightly that it is a literal judgment, are you saying then that the horned lamb has his eye and arm dim and dried? so that you have two wounds administered, one to the empire, one to the horned lamb, Zechariah prophesying the latter? Is it the same prophecy fulfilled once symbolically and once literally? Or two seperate prophecies? What about all the verses in the post, only Zechariah applies to the horned lamb? And if yes, how is scripture with scripture?"

If the shepherd is the horned lamb, it is a completely separate prophecy.

Some of these passages that you mention are of uncertain application to the Antichrist (or the Beast).

The brusing of the head is Satan's head (not his seed- 'thy head').

I think that the interpretation of Rev 3:3 to the kingdom rather than an individual makes a lot more sense.

A man only has one head. Why should this head be the one that is wounded? Why not the other seven heads that are fine?

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

1:16 PM  
Blogger Revelation 2:17 said...

thanks for long reply. Ok. so in order for me to understand your position, what do you make of


"Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."

Is not every head a single person?

1:26 PM  
Blogger Matthew Celestine said...

Probably not. Those probably refer to the sucessive kingdoms of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome, and the revived Roman Empire (or possibly Papal Rome).

If there is a better explanation please share.

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

12:53 PM  
Blogger Revelation 2:17 said...

sure.

When the Bible says "kings", believe it means "kings".

12:29 PM  
Blogger Matthew Celestine said...

Okay, so who are the seven kings (five of them were from before John's time and one was contemporary with John)?

And why do you think oen of them is the little horn of Daniel?

12:32 PM  
Blogger Genesis 3:15 said...

I'm sorry to interrupt this discussion...but, does it really matter whether or not it is a king or a nation. In this case, I think not. If a king, then he will lead a nation to do his will. Right? So an entire nation under the dominion of a king would pretty much be used of the king to do as he wills. In the same way, if it is a nation, the same conclusion applies. The nation will do "a" will as an entity.

This Bible passage, I think (in my humble, uneducated opinion) would have the same ultimate meaning. Right?

9:10 PM  

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